Alex Hourigan
Hi chicks, I'm Al.
Sally McMullen
And I'm Sal.
Alex Hourigan
And this is Two Broke Chicks, the show that shares life lessons for the gals, from the gals. And in today's episode, it's a super fun one. We're chatting to Zanna Roberts Rassi, who is one of the founders of Milk Makeup. If you haven't heard of Milk Makeup, it's like a cult beauty brand it launched in Australia within the last five months in Sephora, but it's been a massive brand used by multiple celebrities, me included, Sal included. Red carpet moment. It's known for its viral Hydro Grip Primer which you've probably seen all over your TikTok and today we're going to chat to Zanna all about her beauty secrets, must have makeup products, and also some celebrity gossip as she's also an E News presenter.
Sally McMullen
Literally, she's friends with like every celebrity in Hollywood when you scroll through her Instagram, she literally has just BTS with like every Kardashian and Jenner, all the celebs you can imagine. So she has the goss.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, I swear there's like a pic of her with Kylie before the Met Gala. And I was like, you could have helped her. Like Zanna, you could've thrown the girl a bone. You could have said something. But you didn't! So we recorded this episode in Milk Makeup HQ, which was super fun, their office is literally beautiful, I want to move in.
Sally McMullen
In New York!
Alex Hourigan
In New York, darlin. But the sound quality is a little, how you goin. So fair warning, soz about dat. We tried our best. It's still a great ep so strap in and enjoy. Before we get into our stunning little episode, what is your life lesson of the week Sally Bally? Sally Bally!
Sally McMullen
Sally Bally! So I've got a little makeup hack.
Alex Hourigan
Oh, here we go.
Sally McMullen
I know this is something that pains both of us.
Alex Hourigan
Oh god.
Sally McMullen
You know when you're doing your mascara, and either you sneeze or you accidentally nick near your eyebrow, something goes awry and you end up with a huge splotch of mascara on you, and then you try and rub it off and you just make everything worse? I've got a really easy hack to get rid of that mascara. So when you're doing your mascara, if you get a little splodge, you know somewhere something goes awry, wait for it to dry first. Don't attempt to rub it off. Then once it's dry, get a spoolie, a clean spoolie, and just start scratching or rubbing it away. And it takes it completely off without smudging it and without removing your eye makeup. It's incredible!
Alex Hourigan
It's amazing. I've like saw that on the days of like YouTube when I was watching like Shani Grimmond when I was like 16, and I was like, "Holy shit".
Sally McMullen
It's a game changer.
Alex Hourigan
It's so good because as well like when it first happens, your immediate reaction is to want to wipe it away. But yeah, do you remember I did that once and I was using a spoolie but I use the wrong side of the spoolie that was like the really big spikes? When we were in Hawaii, and I literally gouged my eye out and Sal just heard this guttural scream from the bathroom. She's like, "What happened?" and I just, like showed her this spoolie which was like silicone, like it wasn't like the brushy spoolie and one side of it was silicone. It was like really spiky spikes to like really get into your eyebrows and I was like, "I just murdered my eyeball".
Sally McMullen
It was a weapon. I'm surprised you were able to get that on the plane.
Alex Hourigan
Yah, same. I mean, I'm a weapon, so I'm surprised I can get on planes. Yay.
Sally McMullen
I resign. Alright, what's your life lesson of the week?
Alex Hourigan
Okay, my life lesson of the week is, up to 18% of healthy women in Australia are low in iron. So if you are feeling really tired, if you're losing a lot of hair, like if you're moulting heaps of hair, if you bruise quite easily, or another thing that I recently discovered, if you're like get really itchy, dry skin, you might be iron deficient. Might, I'm not a doctor, this is not health advice. And I'm really iron deficient and I'm really bad at taking my iron supplements. In the last two months I've been feeling really tired, and I whinge about it all the time, and I don't do anything about it. However in the last two weeks, I've just been like, "Alex got your shit together", and been taking my iron supplements and girl, I'm ready to run a marathon. I'm Bugs Bunny, I'm ready to just go, I'm going a million miles an hour, coffee who? Caffeine, don't need it.
Sally McMullen
Liar.
Alex Hourigan
But just putting a time in my calendar to actually take my vitamins, like my JS Health Hair and energy vitamins, which also probably helps me be like wehee, and then my iron supplements, has just made the biggest difference in how I just go all the way through the day as well. I don't have that, like 3pm slump as much as I used to. And I also feel like it's improved my mood.
Sally McMullen
I definitely need to get on that because as a vegetarian, and just a fellow lady, I am definitely low in iron, I am sure.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah. If you think you might be low in iron, go talk to your GP, you can have a blood test and they test your iron levels. And that way you can see whether or not you need to incorporate either more iron into your diet, or take an iron supplement throughout the week. You don't have to take one every day, it depends on what your levels are. You can take one every second day. I don't know I'm not a doctor go sort that out.
Sally McMullen
Go to your GP.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, I don't know. So yeah. So that's my life lesson. I was tired, and now I'm alive!
Sally McMullen
She's back from the dead, baby!
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, you're all f*cking screwed now! Anyway, let's jump into the episode was Zanna. Zanna, thank you so much for joining us!
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Thanks! In person?
Alex Hourigan
I know!
Zanna Roberts Rassi
This is incredible. I think after so many months and years of COVID and zooms, and now to actually be in the same room as somebody talking to it's just, it's heaven.
Alex Hourigan
It's so much nicer. When we started, we were doing everything over zoom recordings. And it's just better in person.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
It's funny because we're now all back in the office as well here at Milk Makeup, as you probably will hear in the background, there's people milling around. But it's like those meetings where you leave the meeting after everyone said there piece and then the real stuff happens in the fallout of the meeting.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, exactly.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
So when you're on the way to the bathroom or the conversation while you grabbing coffee and I think there's there was so much lost in that time. And we definitely learned a lot on the other hand, but it's so nice to be back IRL.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah.
Sally McMullen
Live from New York, baby!
Alex Hourigan
Legit! And your office is amazing. It's beautiful. And there's some office dogs which we've had a pat.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
There's a whole, like army of animals in here, we have a zoo.
Alex Hourigan
Well, jumping right in.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Okay!
Alex Hourigan
Why did you choose to call the brand Milk Makeup? What does it mean?
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Milk Makeup was born out of Milk Studios and Milk Studios is in downtown New York City. And it was actually started 26 years ago. '96, so my husband and his two co-founders started Milk Studios, which was this melting pot of creativity, right? So it's a photo studio first and foremost, but it turned into this massive like cultural hubs. All these tastemakers would be there. You'd have models, musicians, entertainers, artists, photographers, stylists, editors, like everybody would go there and also hang out there as well. So it wasn't just a place to shoot the campaign right, there was a jam room downstairs where everyone would be rocking out and like Kanye performed, participated practice down there, it was really hidden little gem in New York City. And then you had the gallery on the first floor where we'd have so many amazing fashion shows or exhibitions with upcoming emerging designers and the people like Calvin Klein. And then you'd have the actual studios as well, where you'd have everybody shooting from every Kardashian. But back in the day was like Victoria's Secret was the big thing.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah
Zanna Roberts Rassi
And all the Mac campaigns would be shot there and it was also a spot where we'd do fashion shows. So those made fashion, which was born out of Milk Studios. The point being Milk Makeup was very much built upon this community, this amazing diverse community of creators, makers, also thinkers, weren't really necessarily been represented in beauty at that time. So, you know, we'd see all these incredible images coming out of the studios from these amazing campaigns from all the big brands. And they were kind of like hyperreal, they looked almost unattainable. And we really realised that the people at Milk Makeup who were actually working there, hanging there, creating there, looked nothing like that. Their makeup was so much more real, so much more self expression, right, it was less of like the hyper untouched, you know, perfect look. So we basically built Milk Makeup around this community and the way that they worked, I always describe it, it was like the makeup of the people who worked on the set as opposed to the images that were producing.
Alex Hourigan
I love that.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
The way the photographer would wear an eyeliner, the way the assistant in the equipment room would have like the inky black eyeliner, you know, the girl at reception would have you know, the most beautiful flush skin and a big brow. Like it was always about those elements as opposed to this perfected look.
Sally McMullen
That's so cool.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Yeah, we always call ourselves, at the beginning it was like, we're the streetstyle of makeup. It was when streetstyle was really happening in fashion but nothing was really happening in beauty so I was always like yeah, this is like streetstyle beauty. And also our consumer's like she's on the go all the time and he's on the go all the time. It's like you want it to get stuff done quickly while you're still living your life, right? So everything was super multitasking and you see that in our lineup. All the products: easy on the go, use in a pinch, change your look up in the back of a cab in five minutes.
Sally McMullen
Love that.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
You know, we're so time poor and we all are ambitious, fast paced people. You know, we have a lot a lot of other things going on as well as putting on makeup.
Sally McMullen
Yeah, one factor does the whole picture.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
I mean we love it. But I think at the time it was like, let's just be really efficient about this and utility was always something we wanted to infuse.
Alex Hourigan
So Milk Makeup was born out of Milk Studios, but why Milk?
Zanna Roberts Rassi
My husband, who founded Milk Studios, he wanted a word that meant something that was quick and snappy. And we were thinking of like, zero to 800 words or something and they were all like four letter words. And he was going through the list one night and on like a stroll or something, like going through them with a friend of his. And they have Milk and they loved it because A, it was super architectural. It just looks beautiful.
Sally McMullen
It looks like a skyline.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Skyline, that's exactly it.
Alex Hourigan
Oh my god!
Zanna Roberts Rassi
That was the premise of this and then also, you know, when launching Milk Makeup, we went through so many other names. We knew we were making it about Milk Studios and the the crew and the community. We had formula at one point because the studios downstairs in Milk, we had like this baby milk, so it was like for the assistants and the up and comers and we called it formula. What are we doing circumnavigating the globe for the right name when it was right in front of us? So Milk Makeup was born and it stuck.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, so Sal and I have had the pleasure of trying some Milk Makeup products. But what are the top three best selling products from Milk? And why should people try them if they haven't yet?
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Well, first off, everybody needs to try some Milk Makeup.
Alex Hourigan
Yes!
Zanna Roberts Rassi
The best testament is that once you've tried it, the only regret people have is that they didn't try it sooner. And I can honestly say that like how did I not discover this vegan moisturiser?
Alex Hourigan
Yeah.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
How have I not discovered this lip and cheek? So when it comes to three bestsellers, God, we have so many heroes, I would say bestsellers, and I can't be specific, but Hydro Grip. I was never a primer girl, even though I wear a lot of makeup on TV and stuff, but never really into it. And then we created this. So the idea of Hydro Grip is that it hydrates and it grips at the same time. So who doesn't want their makeup to look better?
Alex Hourigan
And just stay on?
Zanna Roberts Rassi
And stay on. I have tried and tested this baby. I put it through the worst. Fashion week from starting off at like 5am all the way through to night events like on camera all day and it literally grips, wearing masks all the stuff. And it contains blue agave, which is the magic ingredient which locks makeup in. And then it has hyaluronic acid, which infuses your skin with the most delicious hydration basically. And also niacinamide, so that's the big three. So it's just like this infusion of hydration while still locking it in. And if you notice, lots of primers don't hydrate like that, right? And a lot of them contain silicone, which invariably actually makes your skin break out, if you use it over a few days because it blocks pores.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah
Zanna Roberts Rassi
This one's fully breathable. No silicone, vegan, cruelty free, gluten free, like all of our products.
Alex Hourigan
It's like magic in a bottle. It's ridiculous.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
I mean, it's our bestseller, for sure.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah
Zanna Roberts Rassi
I mean, we can't keep it on the shelves.
Sally McMullen
Love that. And what about the other two?
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Lip and Cheek is one of the bestsellers, that has been around since day one, which day one, by the way was 2016, seven years ago. I go back to the idea of it being utilitarian, where it's in a stick, it's easy on the go. It's Lip and Cheek blush, but I feel like nothing finishes a face like blush. And then if you can pull it all together with the same colour so you do on your lip and your cheek and then I also, and I don't think it was supposed to do this, but I do it and Diana on the team will kill me, I always put it on my eyelids as well. There's nothing like a monochromatic look.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah
Zanna Roberts Rassi
And it's the easiest, I can look okay in the back of a cab, like before I get to my next meeting. And it also contains mango, avocado oils. So really rich in skincare, like all of our products, it's not just about the effects and the payoff, it's about what's inside them as well. So you always feed, you're always doing double duty. And then Sunshine Skin Tint, I'd say for number three, and why you need that is because it's a multitasking miracle. Three in one, so you got your SPF, it's tinted so your skin looks just dewy and perfect. But it's like it's lightweight, but it's buildable so you can get just the right amount of coverage. And it's also super hydrating, contains some delicious oils. I call it the efficient multitasker, for efficient multitaskers. And it comes in this roller ball, so you just pump, roll it on the face, and you are literally good to go.
Sally McMullen
That's so cool. So we've spoken about quite a few of the cult faves and bestsellers, but what is the most underrated Milk Makeup products that everybody needs to try?
Zanna Roberts Rassi
It's one that I wasn't using as well, so I'm gonna say this now, Kush Brow. Did you try?
Sally McMullen
We both just started using it.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Really? I mean, you've both got amazing brows.
Sally McMullen
Because we both got our brows laminated and they were like, you need to keep these babies hydrated. And I've been using it every day and it's made such a difference.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Because it hydrates! You just hit the nail on the head, right. So it's got this cannabis oil extract in it, which hydrates brows so you're not going to get that crispy, basically crispy, flaky brow.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah. No one wants that.
Sally McMullen
Nobody wants that.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
No, because you're halfway through the day and you end up picking them, if you're like me.
Alex Hourigan
Isn't it the worst? You look like you have eyebrow dandruff.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
That's a really good term, we might have to use that one.
Alex Hourigan
I'm trademarking it.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
No eyebrow dandruff. Especially with the gel and this is a clear one, it comes in multitude of shades, I want to say like five different shades. So this is a clear gel. And I like, like you guys have got those great brushed up brows as well, which is so nice. You could do the fluffy effect by just like brushing each one up a little bit like that. Or you can do the most sleek effect by just running it over the top but it definitely locks your brows in.
Sally McMullen
Alright, get it in the carts, chicks.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, add it to cart. So Milk Makeup has a big focus on inclusivity and beauty for everyone. How does that work currently and what are Milk's plans to expand upon its inclusivity in the future?
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Thank you for noticing. From day one, our mission has always been to be inclusive and diverse. Our first gondola, which I look back on now is so incredible, but it was something that beauty industry have never seen before. We had nine portraits of unique faces. Those ones I referenced earlier, right, so these people we had straight guys wearing makeup, gay guys wearing makeup, girls, gender and skin colour was not even a conversation to us. It was just all about this expression, right?
Alex Hourigan
People. Yeah.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Exactly. And we just did this campaign and I think, you know, Sephora at the time like what is? Like, people were shocked.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Like, is this a beauty campaign? It was just so unique, right but because we were representing the underrepresented, it wasn't just about these beautiful faces that were like that just been you know like put through the mill and back with a with a good old beat. It was like real personality. With a flash of blue eyeliner or a holographic on the cheek before it was even trendy. To your point it's like we've always been there, right, and it's not something new to us, isn't it wasn't a marketing term. We will just continue to do that we will always lead the charge and we will continue to always represent the underrepresented. When it comes to products, we've just expanded our shade ranges all the time. From our foundations to our concealers to our bronzers, we have multitude of shades to work with every skin tone as well because that's obviously very important to us. And for a smallish brand, it's not that easy to do. Right? To really keep on pumping out all like 14 shades in a foundation is not a cheap thing to do for anyone. But we know how important it is to represent so we just keep on growing those shade ranges. And you see our diversity and inclusivity on social media.
Alex Hourigan
I swear you can like recognise immediately before even looking at like who's posted it, when even if Sephora is posted something to do with Milk Makeup, I swear from that campaign imagery you can immediately recognise the branding because you guys are so good with making it still look and feel with different faces all Milk Makeup.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
It's such a great compliment. I think that's what we strive to do. Right? It's not, we're not trying to reinvent people we're just trying to kind of reinvent the industry a little bit, from the get go. And to stand out and have a unique point of view in such a saturated market is the goal.
Alex Hourigan
And Milk only hit Sephora Australia within the last year I think
Zanna Roberts Rassi
It was, because I remember during COVID, myself and my husband Rassi, co-founder as well, were supposed to come out to Australia and we have two little girls and it was gonna be the trip. We couldn't get there. So all that we I did so much press with fabulous Australians over Zooms. It was like the first round really getting used to it, so. You guys love Milk Makeup, though!
Alex Hourigan
It was huge!
Sally McMullen
I think because it was such a viral brand anyway that we had seen so much of at that point all over Instagram and then you know TikTok was starting up again. So so many of the products had made the rounds. They were like we need to try these but they were hard to get your hands on.
Alex Hourigan
I don't think there was necessarily anything on the Australian market that provided and gave what Milk products do. Like there's nothing like Hydro Grip on the market. And so I think that's where a lot of excitement was from because in Australia it is so hard to get products, our international shipping is ridiculous because we're so far away it's so expensive. So to be able to just be able to one go in store and try a product and see which matches you, see which works with your skin tone if you like the shade, is amazing. And then also not having to pay 50 bucks for shipping is not bad.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Before we launch, that was one of the most regular DM or requests with guests like when are you coming, when are you coming, when are you coming. You know it's funny, my friend's Australian and she's a photographer with Russell James, was within this this weekend and there was she was saying was this 'ahh' moment when they first saw the gondola in Sephora as well, like it was just so different from everything else in Australia that she was seeing and to be able to get it was
Sally McMullen
Yeah, it felt very fresh. As well as inclusivity, clean beauty and vegan beauty is also a very important part of the brand's ethos. But can you explain what exactly does that mean, like what is clean beauty?
Zanna Roberts Rassi
There are so many definitions and there there isn't one true definition. All I can say is that we are not makeup formulatem, all of our products are around Sephora's clean standards, which are high. They do not mess around when it comes to being clean. Everything from here on in our all our launches is 90% plus natural. Only the best ingredients, always been vegan, always gluten free, paraben free and cruelty free. So for us we're just raising our standards, right, so that means you're gonna find the best ingredients as I said. And now we can develop products, there's so many great alternatives so we can have like the Hydro Grip I was talking about earlier as well is 94%, our rise mascara 93% are natural, so that to us is clean. I feel like nearly as clean as you can get something while still working. And, you know, transparency as well with just the ingredients list. We're so clear about it, we don't have any like floral language, we don't like romanticise, we don't try and confuse people. Milk Makeup's always been a very clear brand transparent in packaging. Like half of our stuff, when we launched all of our packaging was transparent because we wanted to be very clear, transparent in our language and in our ingredients list, clear with our descriptions. Like, even the products matte bronzer, lip and cheek.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah!
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Like it doesn't go down that route. And trust me as a beauty editor, so tempted to come up with all these tricky names.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah
Zanna Roberts Rassi
No, no one needs a pun, they just need something that works.
Sally McMullen
Exactly, half the time you're at the store and you're like, "Okay, wait, but what is this?".
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, or like you get the packaging, you pull it out and it's half of what the packaging was? Like you pull out the product and it's like half the size of the packet, and I'm like, "You little bitch". So you mentioned you used to be a beauty editor and you're also an E broadcast journalist. So you've been on many red carpets, you've been to the Met, but what has been your favourite red carpet look ever?
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Oh my gosh, a Rihanna do you remember when she did that incredible blush look so it was like the entire infratemporal blush before anyone was doing blush. Yeah, all the way around her eye sockets and then all the way like blown out into her hairline. Moments like that to me and it just like, you see it there and guys you laugh at home you're like "Oh, no way that would do that". But that stuff trends and it trickles down. And all of a sudden we're all doing blush, monochromatic as we were talking about before. Like it does have its trickle down effect. To moment like that for sure. One of the greatest beauty moments of late, which I saw up close and personal, Gaga, I think it was 2018 or 2019 Globes, when she wore the periwinkle blue Valentino dress.
Sally McMullen
Oh my god.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
If you haven't seen this, guys just Google it please. She wore this amazing blue and she had Frederick, her hairdresser dyed her hair blue. So my job is also, not only to be on the carpet and talk about the looks, I get to the story behind. So I'm always speaking to the hair and the makeup and the stylists. The design is to understand what the looks is saying as opposed to just being an opinionater. I want to really know the backstory and shine a light on those brilliant people behind the scenes. So I was speaking to Frederick that morning, Who's pulling his own hair out, cuz apparently she just changed her mind. Like that morning, decided to do the blue. Like most of us will plan that stuff. It's a major red carpet
Alex Hourigan
Yeah. And she's like, "Oh, I want blue hair".
Zanna Roberts Rassi
She's got that guttural instinctual, like "No, we're gonna go with matching periwinkle to the event". So he was like running around CVS's trying to pick up a blue hair dye. It's somewhere actually the one he used, I think it was like some $3 hair dye.
Alex Hourigan
Oh my god!
Zanna Roberts Rassi
It was like the whole beauty, it was the hair, it was the makeup, was just perfectly smouldering. And I was there and I nearly tripped over her train. I remember at one point on the carpet. Jaw drop.
Sally McMullen
How incredible to witness that in person.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
I'm so lucky. I pinch myself when I say it as well. We have our glam bot at E which is always so fun because I stand very near that and everyone comes up and it's funny watching other celebs because they're like zhushing themselves, like figuring it out. And everyone's like petrified of the glam bot because it's full on like it flies at you as well. 360 turn, you really see like all the details.
Alex Hourigan
I love those videos.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
They're great.
Alex Hourigan
They're so cool.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
But it's funny watching, like you see them in kind of a quite a raw state, right? Where they're glammed up but they're very like, about to do this major picture. And those carpets and that's no joke like standing up front of all those photographers, shouting, you know?
Sally McMullen
Seems so intense.
Alex Hourigan
I love those videos were like there's paparazzi and photographers yelling, and then the celebrities are like, "You know what? I'm leaving."
Sally McMullen
So we've had a big year for Milk Makeup already. But what else can we expect from the brand in 2022? Can you give us any sneak peeks of upcoming launches?
Zanna Roberts Rassi
You know, it's funny, because you're here and we're just coming off a day of Milk Makeup Summit. So we had 80 people, all from our executive team, all come in, it was so fun. But one of the highlights was sitting with Diana, our amazing COO and co founder who creates all the products. I can't even tell you what's coming, it's so good, like the innovation, likethese products are things I've never seen before. And that's one of the things that Diana on her team will never do. Like she said from the beginning. I will never create something that already exists. So be it an eyeliner, there's always going to be something and feel like it's gonna have skincare ingredients and infused with it's going to be an interesting component. It's going to be a new application form with it. Like they'll never do anything that already exists. Like, "How can we do a palette in a Milk Makeup way?" "Over my dead body are we doing a palette. Everybody does palettes''. You know how much money you can make on a pallet. There's a reason why people make palettes, just like there's so much waste. You don't use all the colours. And I was like, you're absolutely right. So we did our own version of everything you know. So there's some amazing innovation. There's stuff you won't have ever seen before in the beauty world. And we're just going to keep leading the charge when it comes to first.
Alex Hourigan
Oh my god, cool.
Sally McMullen
We'll keep our eyes peeled and our beauty bags open.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, just don't expect a pallet. Well, thank you so much for joining us. It's been so much fun. You're such a like warm energy.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Oh, you two are so nice. I love Australians.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, you have to come and visit us.
Sally McMullen
We can go get some cocktails when you're in town.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Where does one go for cocktails these days?
Sally McMullen
We'll show you around.
Alex Hourigan
We've got some quaint little bars.
Sally McMullen
We're privvy to like a rock and roll dive bar.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
Oh, yes!
Alex Hourigan
Okay, good. We're on the money. We'll take you to Frankie's. First time, Frankie's Pizza? Little hole in the wall.
Zanna Roberts Rassi
That sounds like where we should do a Milk Makeup event.
Alex Hourigan
Oh, yes. Well, again, thank you.
Sally McMullen
What a pleasure. We love you!
Alex Hourigan
Well, that is a wrap. Thank you so much Zanna for joining us. We absolutely love it in this office. As I said I'm moving in. It was incredible. We've popped links to Zanna's socials and where you can shop Milk Makeup in the shownotes. Thanks to our production team Pariya Taherzadeh, Bamby Media and Made in Katana for making this episode happen and we'll catch you in the next ep.
Sally McMullen
Bye, chicks!
Alex Hourigan
Bye! Love you.
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