Sally McMullen
Hey chicks. I'm Sal.
Alex Hourigan
And I'm Al.
Sally McMullen
And this is Two Broke Chicks, the show that shares life lessons from the gals, for le gals. And in today's episode, we're talking about popular brand sustainability scores. If you follow us on Instagram, or if you listen to our most recent episode about how to shop more sustainably, you might be familiar with this format, where we basically read brands for filth, not really, but we talk about their sustainability scores. And it's actually really interesting, and y'all loved it. Because there are a lot of brands out there that by the price tag, you might think that they're super sustainable, and they're not.
This episode was kind of also inspired by Missguided going into voluntary administration, recently. They have been repurchased, shock to no one. But it kind of got us thinking about the attitudes towards fast fashion and the fact that it wasn't even a term used five years ago, if that and that it's becoming so much more of a value for everyone to be shopping a little bit more sustainably, even me.
These scores are sourced from Good On You, which is an amazing resource that does a bunch of research on like publicly available information, but they collate it all in one place. And we're going to be going through some of the internet's favourite brands.
Alex Hourigan
Fav brandy brands.
Sally McMullen
And sharing their sustainability ratings. But before we get into the juicy goss, we love to start our episodes with a life lesson of the week. So what do you have for me, Al?
Alex Hourigan
My life lesson of the week is a litte tale. Set the scene, it's Sunday night, I'm building a lamp in my kitchen, as you do on your Sunday night. And there's a knock at the door. I thought my roommate had ordered like UberEats or Jimmy Brings or something, obviously. So I didn't go up to get the door and she came back, and she's Irish, and shes goes, "There's a boy to door". And I thought it was like she didn't know who it was. So I was like, oh, okay, I'll come with you because you're a scaredy cat. An I open the door and it's this neighbour that I met like six months ago because I had built a desk and it was like a really big box. And he would help me take it down and then like broke it up for me at the bins, but there was like this little little vibe. There was no flirting or anything, but I was just like, there's a bit of a vibe there. Like this was six months ago so I completely left it. Anyway, opened the door and he's standing there and I was like, oh, maybe he's been locked out. And I was like, "Oh, hey, like, are you okay?", and he was like, "Oh, yeah, I've recently become single and I want to get your number". And I was like, "What?", it was wild. Like, it doesn't sound that big of a deal. But the balls on this guy to like knock on my door and ask for my number was like out of a rom com.
Sally McMullen
Yeah, that's what I said.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, it was really funny. And then he was like, "Can I come in and like, have a chat?". And I was honestly looking like a creature of the deep. Like, I was not looking fierce, fashion, fire. And I was like, "Oh, my God, I was like, No, but okay!". And then he's coming in and then I didn't know what to do and my roommates just sitting on the couch. So then he's like, trying to like, talk to me in front of her and it was just so awkward.
Sally McMullen
So awkward.
Alex Hourigan
I know, that was that one was my fault. But life lesson is, if you're thinking about doing something, just go do it. There's someone you think is hot, go message them on Instagram right now and be like, "We should get a drink". Or if you want to go apply for a job. Go put in your resume right now, even if you don't think you're qualified. Just if you're thinking of doing something, but you're like, oh, like, I don't know, if it will happen. The only thing that will change, if it doesn't happen, is nothing.
Sally McMullen
You just stay in the sample place.
Alex Hourigan
Put that on a shirt!
Sally McMullen
My god next round of merch!
Alex Hourigan
Oh my god! I'm impressed with that.
Sally McMullen
But it's so true. If you do nothing, you'll stay in the same place. And if you get knocked back, you're still there, it's fine.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah. And so if there's something that you're wanting to do, go do it. And also, I did give him my number.
Sally McMullen
Ooooooh!
Alex Hourigan
I did give him my number and we had a cup of tea.
Sally McMullen
I love that. Two seeds of romance blossoming in the Savannah. Well, that is a solid life lesson. My life lesson for the week is one that I know that you stand by.
Alex Hourigan
Oh no.
Sally McMullen
And something that we both have as a bit of a mantra, which is 'I'm not intimidating, you're intimidated'. This is triggering for both of us, because we've both had a few instances recently where people haven't confronted us necessarily, but we've heard along the grapevine people saying that we're like mean girls, or you know, seem stuck up or whatever it is. It's never like, "Oh, I had this conversation with Sal & Al and they were really rude". It's just like, "Oh, I've seen them around and I find them intimidating". And every time the person who has told us who's an actual friend is like, "Oh, well, I've chat to them. I don't even know them that well, and they're so nice to me".
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, they're like, "Have you spoken to them?", and they're like," No". And like I get it because we're like a pair, like we're joined at the hip so it can be a little bit like intimidating to approach like two people who are incredibly funny and smart and witty and dress great.
Sally McMullen
And beautiful and successful. And yeah, I think that if you are feeling intimidated by someone, that's okay, because we all do. But just think about why you're feeling intimidated. And if you haven't actually had a conversation with them, maybe give them the benefit of the doubt before you start talking shit.
Alex Hourigan
And then if I'm a bitch, great! You don't have to like everyone either. Like some people just aren't people's cups of tea. Like, I know that I've got a really big personality, and some people might find me annoying. That's so fair enough. I find me annoying too. You don't have to like me, but at least have a reason.
Sally McMullen
Yeah, absolutely. But on that note, let's get into the episode!
Alex Hourigan
Woohoo!
Sally McMullen
Yee dawgy!
Alex Hourigan
Yeehaw!
Sally McMullen
As we mentioned up top, today's episode is all about sustainability ratings for some popular brands that y'all know and lve. And we're sourcing news from Good On You, which is like an online Australian directory that does their own research into I guess, like the materials used, the labour policies that they use in their warehouses, all of that jazz. And they have a rating from one to five, one being 'we avoid', two being 'not good enough', three being 'it's a start', four being 'good', and five being 'great'.
Alex Hourigan
Great! Gorgeous. Graysh.
Sally McMullen
And yeah, they kind of base these ratings on people, planet and animals and then they also have an overall score in terms of how they're doing across the board.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah.
Sally McMullen
So we're going to run through a bunch of brands, and we're going to talk about their overall scores, but then also break down how they do in each category. Basically so you have that transparency for where you're shopping,
Alex Hourigan
And you're gonna be shocked.
Sally McMullen
Gooped and gagged.
Alex Hourigan
As Sal said, they score people off three categories of people, planet and animals. People is obviously how they treat their workers and their policies on how like ethical working strategies and making sure that people are on fair living wages. Planet is obviously how the way they're working affects the environment, carbon emissions, and using like natural and recycled products. And last but not least, is animals, and whether or not they use byproducts of animals and animal welfare policies, all that fun stuff. So you can check out their site if you do want a little bit of more information into how they kind of do their research. But we only have a 30 minute episode here, people, we got stuff together.
Sally McMullen
Yeah, we've got some brands to get through.
Alex Hourigan
As we mentioned earlier, in the episode, we discussed a few brands already and their sustainability scores including Cotton On, Uniqlo. But to start off, we're gonna give you the obvious one out of fives that you already know. The obvious one out of fives include Pretty Little Thing, Boohoo Nasty Gal, Shein and Showpo. These brands sell items starting as low as $1. On Black Friday, Pretty Little Thing had 100% off sale, they were giving away clothes. This is not good brand marketing. This is not charity. This is not them doing good. They had so many clothes that are predominantly made out of plastic, that they're just giving them away. So use that as your benchmark for brands to compare to as we discuss some others, that they're really bad. They're selling things for $1, giving away clothes, there's our bottom line.
Sally McMullen
They're basically the epitome of fast fashion.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah.
Sally McMullen
So the next round that we're going to chat about is Glassons and they get a two out of five for planet, people and animals, which brings their overall score to two out of five,
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, which means they are not good enough.
Sally McMullen
So they have a medium price point of $67.49. But when you look at the site, their price ranges between $4.99 and $129.99. They're known for selling pretty much everything from dresses and tops, pants, outerwear. And I would say that the reason that they're so popular is that they're really on the front foot when it comes to micro trends. So I think that's why the girlies love them. But then that's also very much likely why they're scoring so low across all of these categories, because they're pumping out these clothes so quickly.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah. And Glassons is good because it's affordable, and they do have good quality pieces for the price. But again, like Sal said, it is a low score rating. They do have recycled ranges but if you look on Good On You, it actually says that there's not enough information provided on how much of these recycled fibres and fabrics are used and where they're sourced from. There's like a little bit of smoke and mirrors with that. So it does feel like a little bit of greenwashing. But it's hard because I love Glassons, like I love their pieces, I love all of their clothes and it just kills me.
Sally McMullen
Yeah, I will contradict myself a little bit as much as they are on a lot of micro trends, they also do have a lot of staple pieces as well. So we've both bought things like black tops, and like flared pants and whatnot from there that we've had for years.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah.
Sally McMullen
So if you are going to shop lessons or brands like that, maybe go for the staple pieces that you will hang on to for years,
Alex Hourigan
Or check like Facebook Marketplace, because the girlies love it, there's so much stuff that you can buy secondhand, and that's a bit better than buying it brand new.
Sally McMullen
Totally.
Alex Hourigan
Next up, we have Reformation. So Reformation scores a four out of five for both planet and people and three out of five for animals, bringing their overall score to four out of five. Stunning.
Sally McMullen
Pretty bloody good.
Alex Hourigan
Pretty bloody good. Their price point starts at $45 and caps at $1150, bringing their median price to $598. Similar to Glassons, they have a range of items from dresses, tops, skirts, denim, knitwear, active wear, there's a lot on offer here. And I think the really good thing about Reformation is they kind of offer a lot of choices. There's a lot that they offer, it's not kind of like some sustainable brands have really capsule collections. There's a lot that you can get from there it is at a higher price point, but it is doing good for the environment. So they have that rating, because they use a medium proportion of recycled materials, which they're quite transparent about and actually kind of share that information a bit more, which means Good On You can kind of give them that score for that reason. And they reuse off cuts to reduce textile waste, and also ensure living wages for their workers, which is great because 93% of brands don't actually pay their workers living wages.
Sally McMullen
That is just so shocking, and disgusting. So great to know that they are paying a living wage. I think the point that you made earlier about a lot of brands offering like a capsule collection can be a little bit limiting. Whereas the good thing about Reformation is that they have that, they have the basics covered but they're also great for some of their more unique standout pieces that are like a little bit more special in your wardrobe too. And you feel like you can fork out the money for because it's something special that you'll keep forever. Okay, on to our next brand, which is Bec and Bridge, they score a two out of five for planet and people and a three out of five for animals, which brings their overall score to a two out of five,
Alex Hourigan
This hurt my soul.
Sally McMullen
Because we love Bec and Bridge as well.
Alex Hourigan
But Bec and Bridge, same score as Glassons and Glassons median price was $67.50. Sally, tell me what the median price of Bec and Bridge is, please.
Sally McMullen
So the price points range between $66.50 and $800, which means that the median price is $430. They have this score because they use few eco friendly materials. So you'll see that when you're looking at the tags of the items. They also have no evidence of reducing carbon emissions or, you know, reducing textile waste. And they also don't trace all elements in their supply chain. So there's a transparency issue there. So that's why they've got that rating. But yeah, I can't believe it because the amount of money that I've spent on Bec and Bridge items in the past, and it's usually for a one off event as well. And like of course they're beautiful and that's part of the reason why I'm buying them as well, but I always associated the price tag with all this was made with good materials. It's more sustainable, it's not made, like in some sweatshop somewhere and not saying that that's the case. I don't know. But as you know, the score tells another story.
Alex Hourigan
And a scathing one at that. Moving on, you've probably seen this brand on TikTok, a lot of their pieces have really popped off. There's a certain corset that like everyone wears that I can't afford, great. There's actually a corset that I want from there, so if you're listening, you know, the Instagram, Two Broke Chicks. Anyway, so MIAOU, MIAOU?, they score a four out of five for planet and animals and a three out of five for people, bringing their score to four out of five, which is pretty damn good. Their pricing range from $130 to $670 bringing a medium price point of $400. So a similar price point that we just saw with Bec and Bridge, but a very different score. MIAOU sells corsets bottoms dresses, it's kind of like an elevated street style vibe. Like you can pair the corsets with, you know, a long skirt and heels for a more dressed up look or sneakers and jeans, things like that. You can really kind of play around with the pieces to suit what the event is that you're going to. They have this rating because they are a medium level of eco friendly materials, they use sea freight to reduce climate impact and they don't use animal products which is, vibe. Love that. I like their stuff.
Their pieces are so beautiful. But I guess that's the thing you can and either spend the same amount of money on a lot of shit or you could invest in a really beautiful piece that maybe is a little bit more expensive.
Yeah, when you're right, you're right.
Sally McMullen
Next one,
Alex Hourigan
The creme de la creme. The big boy! The shop of the shopaholics of the girlies.
Sally McMullen
It is Zara! So Zara scores a two out of five for planet, people and animals, which brings their total score to two out of five.
Alex Hourigan
Bom bom bom.
Sally McMullen
Yeah, but I was also kind of pleasantly surprised, I did think that they were going to be a one.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah.
Sally McMullen
It was slightly higher. But their price points sits between $7.95 and $880, which brings their median price to $443. But I would say that the average price is more like under 100 bucks. But the reason that they have this rating is because they also use few eco friendly materials, they don't show any evidence of reducing textile waste in their production. But they do have some science based targets to improve that situation. But according to Good On You, there isn't any evidence to prove that they're on the way to hitting those targets. So we'll see but at least you know, there are some projects in place. There's no evidence that they ensure living wages are being paid for their workers and some animal products are used, for example in like their leather goods.
Disappointing but not surprising.
I mean, good to see that they've got some projects in place. But
Alex Hourigan
I mean, look at how quick like when you go into a Zara store one week later, everything that was there the week before it's gone.
Sally McMullen
Yeah. Well, that's why people go to Zara because every time you go in there,
Alex Hourigan
it's something new.
Sally McMullen
There's new stuff.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, I hate, why is everything that's like fun and good, bad?
Sally McMullen
Yeah, literally.
Alex Hourigan
If you would like a little bit more of a better sustainable option rather than shopping at Zara, we move forward to our next retailer, H&M. So H&M score a three out of five for planet people and animals, giving them an overall score of three out of five. So their price point sets from $4.99 to $449, giving them a medium price point of $226. So their medium price point is lower than Zara's and they have a higher sustainability score. And just as good basics, dare I say if not better, so they sell very similar items like coats, basics, jeans, all that fun stuff. And they have a range for men's, kids as well. So not just women's, same as Zara. So they have this rating because they use some eco friendly and recycled materials. They also have a policy that's approved by Canopy Style to reduce deforestation, and they have science based targets to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
Sally McMullen
Good job, H&M. And good job, you!
Alex Hourigan
Thank you. I was really trying to get that out. My tongue is like tied today.
Sally McMullen
I'll give you a break. Our next brand, I'm pretty sure is the only one that has five out of five of the list that we've put together for today, and that is
Alex Hourigan
Bum bum bum bum bum.
Sally McMullen
Nudie Jeans!
Alex Hourigan
Nude Jeans!
Sally McMullen
So Nudie Jeans have a five out of five across planet, people and animals, which brings their total score to five out of five. So as you might have guessed from the name, they do specialise in denim and jeans. Their jeans sit between $240 to 250 bucks, but they do have a medium price of $400, because some of their products range between $100 and $700. They also sell knitwear and basics and lots of other pieces as well as denim too. But they have this really high rating because they use a high proportion of eco friendly materials, they reuse the majority of their off cuts to reduce textile waste, they also ensure a living wage in most elements of their supply chain. And they also have a project in place to further improve their wages. So tick tick tick, Nudie Jeans.
Alex Hourigan
All right, moving on to another kind of TikTok famous brand is Dion Lee. So Dion Lee's price point is $105 to $1250. Their median price point is $677.50. and they score a one out of five for planet and people and a two out of five for animals, giving them a one out of five score.
Sally McMullen
That is just ludicrous.
Alex Hourigan
I don't, I don't even know at this point. I'm like what? You okay guys? So Dion Lee is kind of similar to MIAOU in their style of clothing. It's a lot of statement staple pieces, if that makes sense.
Sally McMullen
Yeah, like trending staples.
Alex Hourigan
Yep. So they use very few eco friendly materials. There is no evidence that they are trying to reduce their carbon emissions or greenhouse gas emissions. They also use animal products such as leather, wool and exotic animal hair and they don't publish enough evidence or information about their working conditions. So big old stinking one out of five for them. Moving on to the next one out of five. This is the one that shocks the girlies. Again, one out of fives we're talking Boohoo, Pretty Little Thing, Missguided, Nasty Gal. Our next one out of five Sally, tell me who it is.
Sally McMullen
Realisation par.
Alex Hourigan
Shock!
Sally McMullen
I know, shock, horror. So they score a one out a five for planet and people and then they have a zero out of five for animals on Good On You. But I think that's because they don't use any animal product, it like comes up as N/A.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, not applicable, so they don't use any animal product.
Sally McMullen
Exactly. So keep that in mind. But the median price point for Realisation Par is $197. And their clothes sit between $35 and $350. It is insane. They're known for those like beautiful slip dresses, you know, cute baby tees, like they're one of the internet's favourite brands. And people are willing to fork out quite a bit of money because I assume they think that it's more sustainable and made out of good quality materials. But they don't provide sufficient information about anything that they do across people, planet or animals and that's why they have such a low score. And you would think that if they were doing really amazing things, they would be shouting this stuff from the rooftops and making this information really easily accessible on their website. So that's a red flag.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, my opinion on this is like, well, my opinion on this now after doing this research over the last like month, is it high quality pieces made sustainably or is it good branding?
Sally McMullen
Yeah, literally.
Alex Hourigan
And Realisation Par is an example of good branding.
Sally McMullen
Yeah.
Alex Hourigan
They levelled up their brand and gave it to like, really kind of the girlies girl like the Matilda Djerfs of the world to convince us or why we need to pay more for these pieces.
Sally McMullen
Yeah.
Alex Hourigan
Why are we paying more for these pieces?
Sally McMullen
I mean, I wear Realisation Par, their stuff is beautiful and really cool. And they've done amazing collaborations with like Elton John, like of course, I'm gonna shop there but dear god! One out of five!
Alex Hourigan
Which will kind of have you shocked because our next retailer is another one that is one of the internet's favourite brands and that's Princess Polly. Princess Polly score a one out of five for planet, a two out of five for people, but a four out of five for animals, which brings their overall score to two out of five. Princess Polly has a higher sustainability rate than Dion Lee and Realisation Par. What's going on? Anyway, moving on. So their price point ranges from $1 to $319 and keep in mind that dollar is like accessories, it's like a phone charm, you know what I mean?
Sally McMullen
Yeah, or like a hair clip.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, so their median price point is around the $160 mark. They have very much trending pieces. They are similar to Glassons, always on the front foot of what the next trend is going to be across a range of categories, including tops, bottoms, dresses, I could list every single thing, but I'm not going to because that's boring. They do use some eco friendly materials and recycled materials. However, there is no evidence that they minimise their textile waste or greenhouse gas emissions. And there is no evidence of living wage and its supply chain. Princess Polly is a fast fashion brand that has recycled ranges, vegan leather. Is it enough to change their score? No. So do I necessarily believe it? I'm sure they are using it but I think Good On You kind of like opened my eyes to like the greenwashing of recycled ranges of how much is it actually recycled?
Sally McMullen
Yeah, exactly. And like where is it recycled from? And what's the process to remake the garment?
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, do you know what I would love to know how much of a fabric has to be recycled for a brand to be able to claim it's made out of recycled materials. Because imagine if it's like 2% and that's all brands have to do to be like, "We're using recycled materials!". I remember it was like Earth Day and Boohoo tried to do something and everyone was like babes, just it's fine, just maybe don't say anything today. Like today is just the day to be quiet. You don't have to do anything.
Sally McMullen
Yeah, maybe don't post today. But we're gonna finish on a high note and that is with Boody.
Alex Hourigan
B-b-b-Boody.
Sally McMullen
So they score a three out of five for planet a four out of five for people and then an N/A for animals because they don't use any animal products. So that brings their total score to a four out of five which is pretty good. Boody is known for underwear, activewear, loungewear lots of comfy stuff over at Boody. Big fans here at Two Broke Chicks.
Alex Hourigan
Oh yeah.
Sally McMullen
So their prices range between $8.95 and $115 bucks, which brings their median price to $61.95. So pretty affordable. Why they have that rating is because they minimise textile waste, they also reduce water in their production. And they're also certified by the Worldwide Responsible Accredited Production, which basically means that their factories aren't doing f*cked up shit behind closed doors. Their clothes are good quality, they have like a pretty good size range as well. It is you know, underwear and loungewear lots of basics and stuff like that.
Alex Hourigan
That's basically all I wear anyway, you know?
Sally McMullen
Yeah, also I've had a realisation that I never want to spend a lot of money on like basics that I'm gonna be wearing a lot? Like underwear or socks or singlets because I'm like oh, it's just a pair of socks. But I will have my socks for years and I wear them so many times soI think that why not invest in stuff that we're going to be wearing all the time knowing that it's good quality and it has a four out of five rating.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, also the good thing with Boody is they're not that underwear that you like put them in the wash three times and they fall apart. Like, they're gonna last you.
Sally McMullen
Exactly and they're made out of bamboo so it's better for, you know, your privates and all that.
Alex Hourigan
Oh my God, also super, super, super quick one because I know we have to wrap up, but Skims? Two out of five. Leave on that.
Sally McMullen
Holy shit, that's poor.
Alex Hourigan
Two out of five. Because I bought the Skims bodysuit for $109 and it is falling apart. There's a hole in the side of the boob, the trim on the bottom is like unravelling. Kim, we gotta talk.
Sally McMullen
Put me in a room with Kim.
Alex Hourigan
Anyway, Boody, four out of five, stunning, amazing, brave. Skims, two out of five, I want a refund
Sally McMullen
So we'll make sure to chuck a link to Good On You in the show notes because they have a lot of brands in their directory so you can do your own research and also if you'relike question mark, question mark about anything we've spoken about today.
Alex Hourigan
Me too.
Sally McMullen
Yeah same and then you can also get all the dirty deets from Good On You. Again, big disclaimer Al and I have shopped fast fashion brands before, we know that a lot of these sustainable brands are one, expensive, two, maybe don't offer the size ranging that some fast fashion retailers have. But also, we just wanted to use this episode to shine the light basically to show that some of these brands that you are spending a lot of money on don't have a high sustainability rating and if that is something that you were considering when you're shopping, come on girls. But let's move on to our product recommendations of le week! As shopping journalist slash addicts, Al and I try a lot of products and do a lot of shopping, so we're just here to send some love to products that we genuinely vibe with. So no hashtag ad, no hashtag spon,
Alex Hourigan
Bing bang bong
Sally McMullen
for any of these so what is your product rec of the week?
Alex Hourigan
Actually had a different one in the sheet but I realised I haven't spoken about this product on the podcast yet. I've spoken to basically anyone else on this product and it is the Coco and Eve Tanning Mousse. Guys, I am an absolute slut for a fake tan, like I am very very pale to the point that I look sickly. So I really like wearing fake tan. I'm scared of the day that you know it probably will come out that we shouldn't wear fake tan and there's you know reasons for all that but for now I'm gonna wear it. So this is the Coco and Eve Sunny Honey Bali Bronzing Foam, it retails for $45 or $44.90. It's $45. And I kid you not this is the most beautiful tan I've ever used in my entire life. I have eczema so tan really six my dry skin. It can not look too sexy. But it is so hydrating, it is the most beautiful natural tan colour I've ever experienced. And it lasts for five days minimum at that dark colour.
Sally McMullen
That is incredible.
Alex Hourigan
So good, I can't stress enough and I know $45 for a tan, is a lot but I promise you it's worth it. Like because we're so lucky and we get sent products, there's not that many times that I don't have a next tan to try. But with this like I've repurchased it, like I was like I'm not going to bother with those tans, I just want to use this one. So you know when I was shopping journalist repurchases a product, that it's the vibe, it is so good. Try it, I promise you, you won't dislike it. It comes in medium, dark and ultra dark. I tried the dark, and it was pretty dark. So I don't think ,if you want like kind of something that's more like a natural kind of glow, don't go for the ultra dark because we'll probably be a little bit too intense.
Sally McMullen
Okay, I'm literally taking notes. I've been meaning to dry it forever because you really do rave on about it a lot.
Alex Hourigan
Oh my god, it's so good!
Sally McMullen
And your tan always looks great!
Alex Hourigan
It's so good. And I know in the tried and tested episode I was like the Bondi Sands tanning water, this outranks that.
Sally McMullen
Yeah, I remember when you said that I was like, whoa, that is a big call. We'll have to do a part two of our tried and tested.
Alex Hourigan
Oh my god, I'll do like a comparison maybe on TikTok so you can see the difference.
Sally McMullen
Love it.
Alex Hourigan
So good.
Sally McMullen
Okay, my product recommendation of the week is one that we both vibe with. And that is JVN Hair which recently dropped at Sephora. So if you're not familiar, Jonathan Van Ness is the fabulous grooming and beauty expert on Netflix's Queer Eye.
Alex Hourigan
Sally's favourite show.
Sally McMullen
Exactly. And I just love JVN and everything that they do. They can't do anything wrong in my eyes. But you know, I'm always a little bit sceptical when it comes to a celeb beauty launch.
Alex Hourigan
The thing is JVN has been a hair stylist for their entire life, whereas Kim, Hailey Bieber, Kylie, they're celebrities that have beauty lines, whereas JVN is the expert within this niche, launching their beauty line.
Sally McMullen
Exactly, JVN knows their shit and knows what they're talking about.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah, it's different.
Sally McMullen
And also have you seen JVN's hair?
Alex Hourigan
Gorgeous.
Sally McMullen
Anyway, I could talk about the entire collection but I am going to highlight one particular product that I absolutely love and that is the Instant Recovery Heat Protectant Leave In Serum. So essentially, it's a serum that you run through your hair after you've washed it but before you've dried or styled it, so when your hair still damp, and it helps protect your hair from any heat styling that you're going to be doing. My hair is quite dry, I heat style it, pretty much every day. I also dye it with bleach to get it blonde so she's seen some things. But I've found that my hair is way less frizzy and it also holds its curls and any styling that I do a lot longer since using this serum. It leaves your hair feeling hydrated and nourished but not heavy and oily, which sometimes happens when you use a serum. So definitely try this out, it's $43 but for a pretty big tub.
Alex Hourigan
Yeah.
Sally McMullen
And a little bit goes a long way with it and you can shop it at Sephora.
Alex Hourigan
Gorgeous.
Sally McMullen
Okay, well that is another episode of Two Broke Chicks wrapped up. As we mentioned. For all the resources from today's episode, check out the show notes. If you want a transcript, head to finder.com.au/two-broke-chicks.
Alex Hourigan
You can head to our Instagram for more sustainability ratings on a range of brands, we post them every week. And also check out our TikTok where we do a range of reading for filth and praising of brands.
Sally McMullen
Two Broke Chicks.
Alex Hourigan
Two Broke Chicks.
Sally McMullen
As always, thank you to our executive producer Pariya Taherzadeh, our editors at Bamby Media and Made in Katana Studios for having us today. And thanks to you for having us in your ear holes, we love to be here.
Alex Hourigan
Absolutely bloody love it.
Sally McMullen
Till next time. See you on Thursday for our next episode, Fact or Cap!
Alex Hourigan
Have a great day. Have a great day. That's the most important thing today. Have a great day.
Sally McMullen
Love you.
Alex Hourigan
Love you. Bye!
Sally McMullen
Bye chicks!
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